We Move Through Stormy Weather Episode 21 - Carini with JiveGoose
For this episode of We Move Through Stormy Weather, I am very excited to be joined by Brian Weber aka JiveGoose! While generally associated with Goose, Brian is also a long-time Phish fan, having first seen the band in 1995 and has since numbered over 75 shows, including the legendary winter 1997 European tour. He then fell in love with Goose in early 2019 and started the JiveGoose Twitter account shortly thereafter, where he now is the leading source for band news, setlists, and rankings in the community. Join us as we dive into our favourite versions of Carini, Brian's experience on the winter 1997 European tour, and make a very special announcement! Listen now wherever you get your podcasts!
Read on below for my breakdowns of our two picks!
All timings are per LivePhish.
2/17/97 Amsterdam
0:01 - THRASHY segue in from DwD
0:25 - Funk groove already feels very Summer 97-ish
0:42 - Page doing some sick piano vamps
1:00 - Piece of ass
1:25 - Fish briefly throwing in beats of shuffle around the funk
2:20 - Trey solos briefly instead of breakdown
2:46 - Fish drops out except for snare hits
2:50 - Page on clav
3:01 - Fish and Mike bring funk beat back in
3:07 - Trey starts into thick cow funk
3:25 - Trey modulates with lots of feedback
3:33 - Fish picks up pace as Page does weird things on Moog Source and clav
3:47 - Trey inserts rocking jam lick as Fish picks it up
4:04 - “oooo-oooo” from someone, maybe Trey
4:19 - Trey and Fish harmonizing as jam picks up speed and intensity
4:23 - Trey adds a bit of Leslie to his sound
4:38 - Page seems to be playing something totally different from Trey
5:32 - Kind of disjointed
6:05 - Page on clav again, jam continues to charge
6:20 - Someone is bending up something in the background, maybe Trey loops?
6:36 - Sounds like it could -> Llama
7:10 - Page returns to piano with big crashing chords
7:23 - Trey hammering wah
7:34 - The genesis of the crazy Fall 97 Trey-led sections
7:55 - Band finally seems to meet up
8:04 - JON FISHMAN!!!!
8:10 - High-energy jam develops, Fish creates more space with ride cymbal instead of hi-hat
9:15 - Machine-gun Trey and Page
9:25 - Mike bass line almost Wipeout-ish
9:35 - Jon Fishman, still insane
10:15 - this is nuts
10:37 - Fish abruptly changes beat
10:43 - Trey screeches and the band completely loses coherence
11:06 - Mike and Page lock in with Fish as Trey continues to play with effects
11:12 - Trey locks in, screaming loops continue
12:10 - Page starts a descending chord progression
12:20 - Fish changes back to hi-hat and jam gets funkier
12:41 - Trey on cow funk
12:26 - Loops are kind of annoying at this point
12:30 - Stop/start funk groove
13:38 - Band takes longer pauses, loop continue to scream
13:55 - Page starts getting weird on Moog
14:18 - Fish kicks into funk groove, Mike gets NASTY
14:30 - Shades of 7/21/97 Gin briefly
14:50 - Fish fades out gradually, Mike hammers one note
15:06 - Jam gets quiet, loops continue more quietly
15:20 - Trey looking for next idea
15:30 - Fish seemingly ends jam
15:32 - Trey feedback sustain
15:42 - Page volume sweeps in the organ, giving a dreamy space quality
15:57 - Trey gently adds texture, loops are gone now
16:07 - Sounds more like 1999 than 1997
16:23 - Band moves into YEM quiet section jam
17:03 - Page gently moves back to piano, sprinkling high-register notes
17:32 - Trey starts playing off Page, also gently
18:21 - Fish lets go of YEM tease and brings in gentle groove
18:32 - Dreamy and gorgeous, almost FEFY or Bliss-like
18:53 - Insane juxtaposition with what they were doing 10 minutes ago
19:05 - Fish increases intensity and band follows
19:14 - Trey starts playing melodically
19:45 - Could -> Free here
20:32 - Very beautiful
21:03 - Really feels like a Free segue is coming
21:20 - Trey starts Taste
10/16/21 San Francisco
0:00 - Trey RIPS into riff
2:50 - Jam begins with wild synth envelope filter tones from Trey
3:08 - Page builds tension as Fish pushes with ride cymbal triplet
3:29 - Page moves one hand over to Wurli as Trey rides wah and subtle echo delay
3:51 - Trey hints at modulation
3:58 - Page hints at modulation
4:11 - Band modulates to major key, Page sticks to piano
4:45 - Trey finds bright repeating riff, a familiar melody
5:24 - Trey plays a wrong note
5:32 - Fish does continuous snare fills
6:32 - Jam hits a mini-peak as bliss jam continues
6:43 - Great Page/Trey interplay
6:55 - Trey playing off his own echoes and builds
7:31 - Trey starts to lead band away from peak with high envelope filter stabs
7:40 - Melodic soloing returns
8:00 - Trey smoothly transitions to minor key, Page still playing in major
8:28 - Page steps out with a great riff as Trey does some sustain, band still in major key
8:49 - Trey hits peak just as Page trills, sick moment
9:13 - Trey uses sustain as an opportunity to lead band into darker jam, Page still creating a strong foundation of piano
9:34 - Trey starts looping sounds as Page quiets playing
9:44 - Fish still unrelenting
9:51 - Page subtly brings in Moog One like a wave rising out of the ocean
10:03 - Shearing waves of synth begin to circle
10:13 - Mike drops bass bomb
10:22 - Trey loops droning low note as Page plays with major-key synth waves
10:37 - Synth oscillates and gets weird
10:45 - Fish continues to drive groove forward
10:53 - Trey whale call
11:05 - Page going absolutely HAM on the Moog One
11:25 - Page switching between crazy waves of sound and major key sustain on Moog
11:47 - Trey still looping droning sounds, lots of great textures
12:03 - Page subtly introduces major-key idea
12:24 - Trey begins to emerge from murk with some minor-key soloing
12:40 - Jam still in synth loop craziness
12:50 - Coming back to earth
12:56 - Page hits Wurli with gentle chords
13:10 - Jam picks up speed thanks to Fish’s insisting
13:24 - Trey’s soloing grows in intensity
13:32 - Page starts into HOSE progression on synth
13:41 - Trey uses big delay notes and we are in major key hose jam now
13:52 - How do you improvise this wtf
13:59 - PURE JOY
14:07 - AAAAHHHH
14:11 - Page using the Moog like he would normally use the organ
14:21 - Wurli is perfect here
14:28 - Trey starts soloing and lets go of most loops
14:40 - Mike’s bass line is still incredibly strong
14:50 - Awesome Fish fills
15:03 - WURLI!!!!
15:11 - Feels like riding a rainbow through a sunny meadow
15:23 - Incredible soloing from Trey
15:30 - Page switches to piano, keeps one hand on Moog like he’d normally use with organ
15:50 - Page goes back to wurli, arpeggiates
16:02 - Trey BUILDS and BUILDS and BUILDS
16:21 - Fish fill builds to bigger and bigger peaks
16:36 - Synth is like a heavenly chorus accompanying Trey’s SHRED
16:50 - Fish briefly switches to half-time for BIGGER build
17:04 - WOO YEAH BABY
17:14 - Trey hits biggest peak yet
17:24 - Fish hits eighth note groove
17:35 - Jam drops shakily back into Carini with waves of synth
17:50 - Energetic Carini ending with awesome Trey fills
18:10 - Band hits last note, more synth waves and bending
18:32 - This band, man